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Old 02-27-2008, 01:21 PM
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WHAT IS THE OLDEST HUMAN LANGUAGE KNOWN?

Its an interesting question to look at because the only thing we know for certain is that the languages used to construct ALL religious documents are relatively recent. Even the morally corrupt Old Testament is a collection of unrelated superstitious myths put together around 750 BC.

We also know that GOD only talks to civillisations older than 30,000 years - This can be taken as a factual axiom and as a given. Perhaps we could start there and work backwards

SO how far can we go? The Jupedian King, Recindiecelin lived in the flutonian period of about 45,000 BC - but I cannot uncover any other civilisation that springs up to take the prize of oldest language.

So, Who used the spoken and codified literal form first?
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Edenite language is the first human tongue - its oldest reference is in genesis - no one else has any record of any earlier period. And hebrew is its closest, purest, unadultrated next of kin. That's why the world's most ancient history is recorded only in hebrew.
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Edenite language is the first human tongue - its oldest reference is in genesis - no one else has any record of any earlier period. And hebrew is its closest, purest, unadultrated next of kin. That's why the world's most ancient history is recorded only in hebrew.
OH DEAR ME, LOOK WHO'S HERE?

THE ONE WHO ONLY READS ONE BOOK AND WHO BELIEVES THAT "ALL GOOD THINGS ARE BAD FOR YOU" (is the old testament a good thing?

WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED THAT YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON TO FALL FOR MY LITTLE TRIVIAL LINGUISTIC TRAP?

WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED AT THE EXTENT OF YOUR LITERATURE SEARCH IN ORDER TO ANSWER MY QUESTION?

WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED AT YOUR ANSWER?

IT WOULD SEEM LOGICAL TO ASSUME THAT AS WELL AS BEING HEARTLESS AND POSSESSING A CRANIAL CAVITY DEVOID OF MATTER, YOU ARE ALSO SCROTUMLESS - YOU POOR THING!






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Edenite language is the first human tongue - its oldest reference is in genesis - no one else has any record of any earlier period. And hebrew is its closest, purest, unadultrated next of kin. That's why the world's most ancient history is recorded only in hebrew.
Joe, how many times do I have to fucking tell you, it's Macedonian. Edenite, means more than one, plural ones, eden means one, ite means plural or, and you. One and you one and you one and you. blah blahlabla.
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I think it would prudent if We decide what qualifies as language??

Grunts and groans Yelling warnings are language that is true , but I don't think we are after pure animal commands..Or does the ability to spaek count.

Lets set our own criteria for when a sound becomes a word that becomes a language.

Basically several like sounds can have multiple meanings and the influction and manner of how it is emitted should count for something..I was in a class with Chinese and their words were based on sounds and tones...All of it sounds like UUGAWEE Shownoneeee . hahahah

Language should be words portable beyound the tribe? Within the tribe (could be a real big tribe)..??????
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Funny you mention Chinese Mad, the word Samurai is Japanese and it means servant for the lord and in Macedonian it means alone in heaven (same concept). All words stemmed from Macedonian words.
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Joe, how many times do I have to fucking tell you, it's Macedonian. Edenite, means more than one, plural ones, eden means one, ite means plural or, and you. One and you one and you one and you. blah blahlabla.

I know the Macs are older than the Greeks, and I am not tageting any other nation. It is the facts on the table, and my research, which says there was a first language, which is alligned with the first speech endowed humans, and this occured in the middle east. And hebrew can be traced via rootwords, to be the closest - the reason being Hebrew was not altered for 2000 years when it was dorment.

The guttheral sounds in today's Hebrew represents this 2000 year dormency period: even 500 years ago, that is how all languages were spoken [the reason we spell night that way]. If Macedonean is older, it means it is closer to the edinte language, with no alterations and refinements.

One test: if macedonians pronounce Abraham with a B, instead of its original V, then it is not older than Hebrew.
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I think it would prudent if We decide what qualifies as language??

Grunts and groans
Nope. Grunts are common to all life forms - speech is not. Speech is different from communication, and unique to humans, its beginning being 6000 years ago - and perhaps the greatest and boldest premise made in any document, namely Genesis.

It will be the advent of speech, which will expose the errors of ToE, and one day answer a host of unknown factors.
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I know you did not peace mill my post (you edit my shit for your BS...Edit this F U .:
What do you want JOE..IamJerkingOffAgain????

I think it would prudent if We decide what qualifies as language??

Grunts and groans Yelling warnings are language that is true , but I don't think we are after pure animal commands..Or does the ability to spaek count.

Lets set our own criteria for when a sound becomes a word that becomes a language.

Basically several like sounds can have multiple meanings and the influction and manner of how it is emitted should count for something..I was in a class with Chinese and their words were based on sounds and tones...All of it sounds like UUGAWEE Shownoneeee . hahahah

Language should be words portable beyound the tribe? Within the tribe (could be a real big tribe)..??????
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Joe don't F-up a peaceful thread with your bullshit...I mean it.

You chop up what I wrote??? And feed your standrard BS...Damnnn Joe you got me curseing again!!! Why??? Why??? Why???

I'm talking to these few folks to establish a point to ponder...

And here you come and half edit ..pick and choose...

You want some lingo .@!?>+%$^# .. Translate that into Hebrew..

Start no shit , there won't be no shit???????
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I know you did not peace mill my post (you edit my shit for your BS...Edit this F U .:
What do you want JOE..IamJerkingOffAgain????

I think it would prudent if We decide what qualifies as language??

Grunts and groans Yelling warnings are language that is true , but I don't think we are after pure animal commands..Or does the ability to spaek count.

Lets set our own criteria for when a sound becomes a word that becomes a language.

Basically several like sounds can have multiple meanings and the influction and manner of how it is emitted should count for something..I was in a class with Chinese and their words were based on sounds and tones...All of it sounds like UUGAWEE Shownoneeee . hahahah

Language should be words portable beyound the tribe? Within the tribe (could be a real big tribe)..??????
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Joe don't F-up a peaceful thread with your bullshit...I mean it.

You chop up what I wrote??? And feed your standrard BS...Damnnn Joe you got me curseing again!!! Why??? Why??? Why???

I'm talking to these few folks to establish a point to ponder...

And here you come and half edit ..pick and choose...

You want some lingo .@!?>+%$^# .. Translate that into Hebrew..

Start no shit , there won't be no shit???????
All life forms can communicate: But the blessing bestowed to humans is speech - which is not the same thing, nor an extention or graduation of communication. You made no such acknowledgement. That is why no other life forms graduated to speech - the most powerful form of adaptation - despite all life forms being older and having the time advantage. Genesis is amazing here, with no possibility of a guesswork or error: it gives a specific date - which is vindicated today to the very year! And this was declared 1000s of years ago - think about it - its a KO of biblical proportions!
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OH DEAR ME, LOOK WHO'S HERE?

THE ONE WHO ONLY READS ONE BOOK AND WHO BELIEVES THAT "ALL GOOD THINGS ARE BAD FOR YOU" (is the old testament a good thing?

WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED THAT YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON TO FALL FOR MY LITTLE TRIVIAL LINGUISTIC TRAP?

WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED AT THE EXTENT OF YOUR LITERATURE SEARCH IN ORDER TO ANSWER MY QUESTION?

WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED AT YOUR ANSWER?

IT WOULD SEEM LOGICAL TO ASSUME THAT AS WELL AS BEING HEARTLESS AND POSSESSING A CRANIAL CAVITY DEVOID OF MATTER, YOU ARE ALSO SCROTUMLESS - YOU POOR THING!






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HEBREW is GREEK

THE WORK OF JOSEPH YAHUDA

A book that "mysteriously disappeared" soon after its publication*

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In 1982, a suppressed, ages-old, historical truth, was resurrected through the publication of a book by Becket Publications of Oxford, England (ISBN O 7289 0013 O). The book, published in English, and titled Hebrew is Greek, was written by lawyer, linguist and researcher, Joseph Yahuda, the son of Isaac Benjamin Ezekiel Yahuda, an ethnic Jew and longtime researcher and linguist. Though Jewish both by nationality and religion, J. Yahuda could be considered a Greek-- according to Isocrates' definition of a Hellene [see definition below. ed.], since his decades-long, unbiased, and meticulously thorough search reveals the linguistic relationship of numerous groups of words in Hebrew, Greek and Arabic. Work that was published without fear or hesitation by a scholar whose only concern was for the discovery of the truth.

Following the book's publication, and while only a limited number of copies circulated for a few fortunate individuals, the book disappeared from the face of the earth. It was as if an invisible hand intervened and blocked its circulation. It cannot be found at any public library, it is not sold at any bookstore on earth, not even in a curiosity or antique shop. [Rare book dealers, in the U.S. and the U.K., have told TGR that there have been inquiries after the book, but that they have been unable to locate a copy anywhere. ed.] The only information available about the book throughout the world is its title. No book reviews on this book were ever published, neither positive nor negative, moderate or offensive. Nor, it seems, has there been any other evaluation of the work. One must eventually come to the inescapable conclusion that every one of the copies originally published was somehow withdrawn through some sort of a secret operation with a global reach.

Concerns posed by another Jewish intellectual who wrote the preface of the book.

The research published in the book covers 718 pages. The introduction was written by Jewish professor Saul Levin, though no enthusiasm on his part was evident in his introduction. He admits that following the 1977 publication of his book entitled, The Indo-European and Semitic Languages, J. Yahuda got in touch with him, and they maintained a fruitful relationship through correspondence, though they never actually met in person. The reason for the interest in J. Yahuda expressed by S. Levin, as he himself confessed, was the publication of several writings by J. Yahuda, such as the La Palestine Revisite, written in 1928, Law and Life According to Hebrew Thought (1932) and This Democracy (n.d.), published by Pitman. Professor Levin learned of the contents of the book [from the proofs which were sent to him from time to time] for which he wrote the introduction gradually, as it had already been sent to the printer. As Professor Levin disclosed: "It was J. Yahuda's congeniality and my inherent curiosity that did not allow me to refuse the writing of the introduction." [For a better understanding as to why Professor Levin was not enthusiastic about writing the introduction, consider the fact that] the black Jew, Martin Bernal, has stated: "Saul Levin was among the many Jewish individuals who worked on the publication of [my] book, Black Athena." A book which has been deemed to be a disgrace and a discredit to serious scholarship by the vast majority of specialists who have read it.

Joseph Yahuda speaks about his work

In the preface of his book, J. Yahuda notes:

This ecumenical research will be reviewed by three separate specialists, one for each language researched, although each specialist does have knowledge of the other two languages. This is not an error committed only by me. I attempted repeatedly, yet unsuccessfully, to find more scholars who would be willing to assist me in my quests. As an example of what I was up against, at the very beginning of an hours-long meeting, one potential colleague exclaimed: "All of this is garbage and we are all wasting our time." My answer was: "Both you, and I, will be judged for the words we say, whenever we discuss my work." I hold no hostility or bitterness because of such small-minded opposition to my belief. In fact, during the progress of my research, I twice attempted to arouse [this man's] interest, but in vain. A little while after the meeting referred to above, I mentioned his degrading comment to Christodoulos Hourmouzios, a graduate of the University of Athens, and an acknowledged specialist on Homer, and he said: ' I think you are one of the greatest linguists I know'; he promised complete cooperation with me. Unfortunately, before we could begin our work, he passed away.

"There were others who admitted that they had been convinced; that something did really exist in my theory. However, they did think that my belief in the correspondence of Hebrew with Greek was rather exaggerated. They said I was too ambitious, and suggested, for my own good, that I expect less and adopt a 'less controversial view.' One of them, Sir Leon Simon (A British Lord of Jewish descent), a known classicist who knew Hebrew, attended my first lecture on the issue on the evening of Jan. 14th, 1959.He did this even though he was old and had to travel a long distance in bad weather and heavy fog. He introduced me, briefly and carefully, not wanting to commit himself to any decision until the end of my speech. Then, before the audience was asked to pose questions, he said the following, which I noted: 'I don't believe that everyone will agree with everything J. Yahuda has told us, as he may have thought that everyone understood what he was saying. Despite any doubts that may exist, I am sure of one thing. He has resolved a mystery that had created confusion for scholars for the past 2.000 years. For, if he is correct in stating that many Greek words that begin with sk were transformed in Hebrew as if sk was a digraph [a combination of two letters to make one simple sound. ed.], or one of the two letters lost, then Homer was not wrong when he left the vrachi [ abbreviated ] vowel at the beginning of the word Skamandros, as in his famous line: 'Ον Ξανθόν καλεουσι θεοί, άνδρες δε Σκάμανδρον'. [The Gods called Xanthos, mortal men Skamandros. ed.] I also had a fruitful interview with a scholar of international fame, which was then followed by a series of exchanges of correspondence. This correspondence ceased after he sent me a note, wherein he wrote: 'It could also be possible that you would say that the English word ball comes from the Greek βάλλω, or that you discover a connection between chow and show since chows are exhibited at shows.

"The result was that I was obliged to fall back on my own sources, and to depend only on my own efforts, thus devoting my free time to this research for the past 30 years or more. Two things kept me going: the unfailing support of my wife, Cecile, and the unprecedented emotions we felt with every new discovery. When my wife was asked by a friend how she was sure of my work, since she knew neither Greek nor Hebrew, she answered: 'But, I know my husband. He hates speculating, he always insists on finding proof. As a lawyer, he is able to evaluate this proof. He tells me that he has plenty of proof that is convincing, and I believe him.' There is truly a plethora of 'proof that is convincing' which I have attempted to make available, not only to those technically specialized, but also to interested, non-specialist researchers."

Yahuda realizes the significance of Greek Civilization

"I was somewhat familiar with the Bible, as stated above. My brother, Solomon, and I learned the New Testament in Hebrew translation from a copy that my father had, as part of his personal library. For years, the distant Biblical past was alive in my mind: I lived with the vision of the pyramids to such an extent, and my passion for the Bible was so great, that I developed hostile feelings for the Greeks and Romans. Strangely, this hostility did not involve the Egyptians, who were our enemies, had been the enemies of our forefathers and had so deeply influenced post-Biblical Hebrew. Neither had I been able to learn more than the necessary Latin needed for my law education and practice. However, my feelings for the Greeks and Romans have changed radically since then. Now I realize that our differences were similar to those of a civil war, as fratricidal as the taking of Troy had been, for I became convinced that the Jews are of Greek descent. This revolutionary transformation took place around the time I was thirty years old, following the publishing of my book Law and Life according to Hebrew Thought. That year (1932), I became interested in biology as a 'hobby'. During my haphazard study of the issue, I came across various Greek words that were strikingly similar to the Hebrew words of the Bible, and I drew the conclusion that the Greeks had borrowed them from us. I began debating the idea of whether or not I should one day begin a systematic comparison of the two languages. At that time, I was still fascinated with the more traditional studies, and, like everyone else, I believed without a doubt that the Semitic languages were Semitic and the Aryan languages were Aryan. These two could not be mixed. At the same time, though, I was thinking that it would be interesting to collect and deconstruct a complete list of groups of similar words so as to demonstrate the degree of influence of Hebrew on Greek at the time before Alexander the Great (considering that the reverse influence became stronger following his conquests). I knew very little of where this research would lead me and what the results would show.

"I had such little knowledge of Greek that all I knew were the first letters of the alphabet, knowledge that I had acquired by chance during my studies of mathematics and geometry. I remember asking my friend Gerald Emanuel, in a teashop in 1932, to write the whole Greek alphabet on the bottom of a half-written page. The years passed, but when I published my book Biology and New Medicine in 1951, I then had the opportunity to spend all of my free time on researching those possible links that I suspected existed between Biblical Hebrew and Greek. Following the acquisition of some rudimentary knowledge of Greek grammar, I submerged into the translation of the Septuagint, solely based on my memory of the meaning of the numerous pages that I had chosen to read. Then I read Homer, comparing him to the Bible. One page from the translation of the Iliad, one page from the Old Testament, line for line, page by page; I started with Genesis and the first book of the Iliad, along with the last book of the Odyssey and the 2nd book of 'Chronicles.' Day after day, the list of similar words grew longer, until it reached 600 words -- including words related to different views and activities of life -- which could not be attributed only to the borrowing factor. In any case, history has not witnessed circumstances where such elaborate borrowing would be possible on such a large scale. I was convinced that this phenomenon went past the limits of borrowing, reaching the limits of a genetic relationship. The door of genealogical descent stood before me and I could not attempt to pass through it or climb above it. It should open freely and widely and the key to this was the grammar. The only grammatical characteristics that I knew of that were common to both Greek and Hebrew, concerned the definite article and the dual number nouns [count nouns. ed.]. I stopped reading and began thinking and re-thinking the results of my non-processed research. I used the materials I had: analyzing, classifying, comparing these with the Biblical variations and the dialectic interchanges of the Greek letters, selecting specific words to be compared. Thus, my theory began to develop. Some of the Greek dialectic letters could be used interchangeably, such as the letters 'k' and 't', 'o' and 'a', 's' and 'd.' I also noted a curious transformation with Hebrew words: a suffix to a Greek word changed to a prefix in a Hebrew word. Early on during my research, I tested the exactness of the words and verified their meanings. As the number of tests increased, the more effective my research became, and the confidence in my theory rose.

"From the beginning, I based a lot of my work on Arabic. With my theory, it became possible for me to correct the translation of the Septuagint, using the Septuagint and the translation of the Bible, using the Bible. These discoveries cured me of my dyslexia in relationship to Greek and Hebrew and made me capable of reading a Hebrew word as if it had been a variation of the word. I formed a series of phonetic and morphology rules. I gradually gathered a number of valuable facts. Some examples are that the declension dotiki [dative] exists in Hebrew, that the masculine plural is the same in Hebrew and Greek, and that, in general, a compound Greek verb is equivalent to a Hebrew compound verb. I estimate that 9 out of each 10 words of the [Jewish] Bible can be proved to have a purely Greek equivalent. Many issues were resolved which prove that the Greeks and Jews hold some customs and religious convictions in common, whereas the Hebrew language is proven to be richer and more beautiful than believed until today because of the existence of these groups of words. This whole matter is, in practice, consistent with the following two proposals: Biblical Hebrew is Greek; and, the Jews are Asian Greeks. In reality, the conclusion of this massive, extended and complicated research can be summarized in the following brief sentence: Hebrew is 'Greek wearing a mask.'"

An example for the rest of his co-religionists

As already stated, the research of J. Yahuda restores part of a universal truth that has fallen into oblivion for millennia. Not only is the Hebrew language "Greek wearing a mask" (in other words, a distorted version of Greek), but, as we have announced at international conventions, there is no other language on the face of the earth except Greek. A few years ago, we made this statement at a convention of the Literary Society Parnassos, titled: "The Ecumenical Character of the Greek Language," where we used texts and images to prove this statement. All other languages are just descendants or distorted dialects of Greek, adopted by the peoples.

Finally, we present one of the tables compiled by the undaunted scholar, J. Yahuda, where Hebrew letters, along with their pronunciation in Hebrew appear on the left, the equivalent Greek letters and their pronunciation in the middle, and the Arabic letters and pronunciation on the right. In the preface, just above the table shown below, Yahuda's first theorem is written, to wit: "The Greek and Hebrew alphabets demonstrate striking similarity insofar as the order of the letters is concerned, their names, their shapes and their pronunciation."



We cannot omit to express our admiration for this great man, who, defying the forces of darkness and medieval ignorance, proved to be an unbiased scholar, unburdened by preconceived dogma and purposeful deception. A man who broke the bonds of mischievous misinformation so prevalent in [the past] century, and dared to defy traditional nationalistic and racist fanaticism while declaring a revolution against the international forces of power. He has achieved the level of a true Hellene. After discovering the truth, he struggled to make it known, he revealed it and he published it without fear. His acts were acts of patriotism, since he has raised his compatriots to a level approaching the Greeks. He called them "Asian Greeks." His life and work truly pronounce him to be of equal value to a Greek, in contrast with those of his compatriots who have denounced him and his book. Is it because they are afraid or is it because they are unable to follow in his footsteps?

In Conclusion

Yahuda has scientifically proven that both Hebrew and Arabic are Greek in their origin, as is true with the other languages of the world. It is to be regretted that the speakers of this distorted Greek dialect do not take advantage of this, so as to elevate themselves to free and Christ-loving Greeks, as their compatriot Yahuda has done. Many of them prefer to live in the dark; It is a fact to be pitied that some are fanatics who hate everything Greek, especially her history and her language. In the past, many such men appeared in the Roman State as politicians, academics or administrators in the public sector, and fought against everything that was Greek. Nowadays, such men cooperate with the global powers that are propelling the world toward destruction. A destruction that can only be avoided by a rebirth of the only salvation for humanity: Greek Civilization!

Source

This article was written by Attorney, linguist, and researcher, Konstantinos G. Georganas, for Davlos. Feb. 1999 issue, pp.12931-12937. (Translation by staff. Emphasis not in original text was added.)


Note: The great rhetorician, Isocrates (436-338 B.C.), gave the following definition of a Hellene in his Panagyricus:


Athens has so far outrun the rest of mankind in thought

and speech that her disciples are the masters of the rest,

and it is due to her that the word "Greek" is not so

much a term of birth as it is of mentality, and is applied

to a common culture rather than a common descent (50).

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Please go back to Alphabet & Language (link below), for more on this important subject.

*TGR received an e-mail from a Mr. P. P. who tells us that he was able to locate copies of Hebrew is Greek in the following places: Columbia University Library in N.Y., the New York Public Library, and the Library of the Union Theological Seminary of New York. We wish to thank him for this information. TGR staff visited the library at Princeton University in New Jersey, and found a copy thereas.
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HEBREW is GREEK

DemonicRage, isn't this linguistic axiom widely accepted within respectable academnic circles?

I would have thought that is was obvious to all that the relatively recent Hebrew language had its roots firmly embedded in Hellenic linguistic soil.

The article you posted was very enlightening - well done!

Keep up the great work in here

You have certainly improved the standard of debate in here by at least an order of magnitude
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The problem is i can only debate whats been put out in front of me...

i can raise the level of debate even more so if i have worthiness to discuss and debate with..

I keep getting hit with "anti semite" by people who do nothing but put down Arabs...with no logic ..

Thats a case of anti semitism in itself...

But yes the Jews were wannabe Greeks... who have had their time in the sun over the last 100 years ... and are hijacking history to push an ageda that they are the cornerstone to civilisation.

The OT stops and the NTbegins with all of Gogs promise to a new world.. away from the bloodlust and tyranny which stained the Judaic faith...

For thounsands of years they evolved from goat herders in Jesus age.. to money lenders...

Thats it!!...
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The problem is i can only debate whats been put out in front of me...

i can raise the level of debate even more so if i have worthiness to discuss and debate with..

I keep getting hit with "anti semite" by people who do nothing but put down Arabs...with no logic ..

Thats a case of anti semitism in itself...

But yes the Jews were wannabe Greeks... who have had their time in the sun over the last 100 years ... and are hijacking history to push an ageda that they are the cornerstone to civilisation.

The OT stops and the NTbegins with all of Gogs promise to a new world.. away from the bloodlust and tyranny which stained the Judaic faith...

For thounsands of years they evolved from goat herders in Jesus age.. to money lenders...

Thats it!!...
But why would a modern day group with no direct lineage to anything remotely past a few centuries want to perpetrate such distortion of the cultural and historical record?

Is it just a case of simple Machiavellian lust for power and global domination?

There are plenty of historical precedents for this sort of behaviour by very dubious collectives of individuals - solely united by their lust for power and fascist ideologies.

Who will stop them? Will they win this time? The weapons are greater during this epoch and so yo may see an amagedon if this group is about to go under.
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