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Old 03-11-2010, 06:35 PM
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We need CCC camps in the U.S.

If we really care about those folks that are unemployed we should start up CCC camps that provide them food and homes. Put these camps in areas of Texas or climates that have climates that promote energy efficiency. They could raise their own food and build their own homes, but they need land to to this. Shoe factories or whatever should be relocated there and be used to make a living.

Sailers or whomever that returns from the service should be hired to harvest kelp to be fermented into methan in huge tanks out to sea. Read about energy from kelp in the web. There is an article there that shows Scotland making methane from kelp. Kelp is an algea that grows 90 feet in a season, unlike corn that grows 8 or 9 feet in a season and is hard for bacteria to digest into methane. Methane is the best source of fuel for the future -- and kelp grown in the Sargasso Sea is a large as the surface of the US. We could use anchored nets like the Scotts do to raise kelp as we consume what is in the Sargasso Sea. Methane is lighter than air and could be easily floated to city in the US by balloon. This would be the best way to pay off our national bebt.
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:11 PM
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Oil and uranium will come to an end because there supply is limited. In fact most of the oil in the world comes from alaphatic oil in algae and also fish that under pressure and heat become benzene molecules such as in petrolium. Methane is supplied abundantly in the oceans due to decay of organic mater. We have all the technology to make methan and oil directly from kelp and alge-- we must do it. We can clean the oceans doing this and make jobs in the US and pay off our national debt. We allso must get out of the silly wars we fight -- there aren't any winners just loosers and deeper debt. Make ourselve self efficient and we wouldn't need war.

If we go to uranium fuel we will end up dead from radio activity from radon gas and the pullatents from refining and using uranium -- and we don't need it. What we do need is to use a "Blume box" at home to generate free electricity at our homes -- this doesn't make any one rich at the expense of the poor. We also must use home grown algae as a source for food -- at least no one would starve due to a change in climate or whatever. We need to be self sufficient at home -- even if we have to redesign the homes we live in. Beauty and extravagance doesn't suplace ingenuity and simplicity.
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Old 03-15-2010, 09:53 PM
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I am sorry but you have been watching too much Simpsons for this radiation notion. Technology can help us solve these problems of safety.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:04 AM
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Respect.

I think your ideas are great!
How can we solve the politcal problem of corrput elites who want to keep us addicted to limited resources so they can have the control????

renewable resources and sensible use of technology and resources is the answer. How can we create the motivation to do this ?
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:23 PM
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Think how many people we could put to work employing people to harvest kelp and become energy efficient-- no more wars and trying to direct other countries policies. With socialism that we used to make an atom bomb and win wars we could make a Manhatton project that would give us all the fuel we need deep into the future.

Without population control nothing will cure the problems that we now have. We must learn how to use algae for food much like we use lettuce. We don't need abortion clinics but we do need the morning after pill. In this way those that can't afford children don't have to. These pills should be provided free by the government at all the public restrooms -- this will save trillions of dallars spent on unwanted births.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:35 AM
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If those folks that are unemployed had jobs we could pay of the national debt. Our capitalists sent our jobs overseas and now there isn't any jobs or money to buy the things our capitalists make they must make there money from their overseas production and could care less about our national debt. They can't even sell products here like they used to because 75% of the people don't have the money. 1% of the population have as much money as the rest of us do to corporate welfare.
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:52 AM
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No, jobs were sent overseas because big companies were being taxes to Kingdom Come with the corporate taxes we have in this nation. Which means, Spacedout, that we have more of a socialized system already.
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:03 PM
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We needed socialism to win our wars even though we went astray getting into them. We built the Hover dam with socialism and did the Manhatton project with it as well as schooling for everyone -- with socialism we can make methan from the oceans and become more secure in not having to fight for oil. We also need capitalism but balanced against socialism.
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The only way for America to get back on its feet we need to make socialist jobs or we will have people living outside civilization to survive. Automation is great but it takes away jobs that anyone can do. Automation is to serve the people not to make profits for those that own them -- if the government owned some automatice factories we would be the stock holders and would produce products for our people and everyone would reap the benifits. For those that can't find a job land down south should be put aside so that they can raise their own food and make there own homes in the most efficient way -- ccc camps or co-ops.
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Old 03-23-2010, 03:23 PM
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Civilization is for everyone and must be humanitarium -- those that overeat and lazy tax the health care. For people like these help should be provided and for those that won't work find out what ails them. There is a reason for everything and also there is a cure. The rich must stop putting 400 gallons of fuel in their pleasure crafts and waisting it all in a day -- we can't afford this kind of waste it all in a day. We don't have enough energy on the planet and this brings up the cost of fuel for the rest of us. Also, we don't need all those mansions that waste fuel and resources.
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In the wake of hurricane katrina there was a philanthropist who offered an opportunity to many who'd lost everything in the storm. He bought a piece of land and formed a community where people could raise vegetables and earn a living off the land. Sure enough the gratefulness wore off and they blamed him for their own restlessness. Even if people lose everything they still take things for granted and blame everyone but themselves.
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Only a fool that does not know Che's past would support him.

This man not only was brutal, but can be considered oppressive in what he thought needed to be done to stop opposition to his views.
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I think you are both right but there has to be an answer for joblessness and relience on the system to survive. I believe we desparately need birth control to reduce the increase in the population of parasites on the system. People need work to feel good about themselves and raising their own food is a good start.
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The joblessness in the US is not going to go away -- everything here is made in China because they have a correct mix of socialism and capitalism -- we are loosing because our capitalists don't want to invest here and have sent our businesses overseas leaving us with not work. As long as we shy away from socialism we won't have jobs and our resources will be sent off shore like what happens with poor countries.
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