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Old 07-18-2010, 02:52 PM
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Lord of the Rings

i first read it 25 years ago,
and now i am reading it for the
7th time

and it just gets better and better with each reading
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Old 07-20-2010, 02:36 PM
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its a great series there's just so much lore and content behind each character.
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Old 07-21-2010, 05:59 AM
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Cool Ring of Gyges

Originally Posted by PoseidonsNet View Post
i first read it 25 years ago,
and now i am reading it for the
7th time

and it just gets better and better with each reading
Moral of the story

In The Republic, Plato puts the tale of the ring of Gyges in the mouth of Glaucon, who uses it to make the point that no man is so virtuous that he could resist the temptation of being able to steal at will by the ring's power of invisibility. In contemporary terms, Glaucon argues that morality is a social construction, whose source is the desire to maintain one's reputation for virtue and honesty; when that sanction is removed, moral character would evaporate. However, Glaucon does not actually hold this belief; he merely produces this tale so that Socrates' argument for justice can be made stronger:
Suppose now that there were two such magic rings, and the just put on one of them and the unjust the other; no man can be imagined to be of such an iron nature that he would stand fast in justice. No man would keep his hands off what was not his own when he could safely take what he liked out of the market, or go into houses and lie with any one at his pleasure, or kill or release from prison whom he would, and in all respects be like a god among men. Then the actions of the just would be as the actions of the unjust; they would both come at last to the same point. And this we may truly affirm to be a great proof that a man is just, not willingly or because he thinks that justice is any good to him individually, but of necessity, for wherever any one thinks that he can safely be unjust, there he is unjust. For all men believe in their hearts that injustice is far more profitable to the individual than justice, and he who argues as I have been supposing, will say that they are right. If you could imagine any one obtaining this power of becoming invisible, and never doing any wrong or touching what was another's, he would be thought by the lookers-on to be a most wretched idiot, although they would praise him to one another's faces, and keep up appearances with one another from a fear that they too might suffer injustice. Plato's Republic, book 2 (Benjamin Jowett trans.) However, in the dialogue Socrates goes on to explain that justice would not be defined by just this social construct; the man who abused the power of the Ring of Gyges has become morally bankrupt and suffered irreparable failings of character, while a man that chose willingly not to use it is at least at peace with himself.(Republic 10:612b)
The story has been cited as one of the sources to J. R. R. Tolkien's One Ring, especially to the behavior of Gollum, as bearer of the Ring and his misdeeds in his original village.[1]
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Old 07-22-2010, 01:33 PM
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It is the best book ever. If you have watched the films and enjoyed them then buy the book, it's really better than the films and they are good. Everything about the Lord of the Rings is magical and a book that can be read and read again.
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:04 PM
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that was great Truthinart - thanks a million

the only thing i don't like about the 6 books
is that i gobbled them up in less than 6 days

so now i have to wait some years so that i can forget it again
so that i can enjoy it again


interesting subscript talmad,

but what scares me, is that i have no fear,
i'm not even scared of fear
i was,
and then i started spooking myself with halucinogens
just for the thrill of being terrified
i introspected on acid,

and got so frightened
now nothing frightens me

and that

is kinda


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