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Old 01-03-2008, 06:02 AM
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We Christians MUST learn from rabbis how to be religious and tolerant and have respect to the Jews:

Government leaders should be hanged for negotiating with the Palestinians, Rabbi Shalom Dov Wolpe told an audience of rabbis in Tel Aviv, according to Channel 1 report aired Wednesday night.
"The terrible traitor, [Ehud Olmert, who gives these Nazis weapons, who gives money, who frees their murderous terrorists, this man, like Ariel Sharon, collaborates with the Nazis," Wolpe told a conference of rabbis who oppose transferring parts of the West Bank or Jerusalem to the Palestinian Authority.
"[Olmert's punishment], and the punishment of [Vice Premier] Haim Ramon, and the punishment of [Foreign Minister] Tzipi Livni, and all these people, like [Defense Minister] Ehud Barak, should be to hang from the gallows," Wolpe said to the cheering crowd.
Among those attending the conference were MK Arye Eldad (National Union/National Religious Party), MK Meir Porush (United Torah Judaism), Kiryat Arba-Hebron Chief Rabbi Dov Lior, Kise Rahamin Yeshiva head Rabbi Meir Mazuz, and former MK Elyakim Haeztni
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:08 AM
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You should quote the OT laws of Democracy.


There are no laws in the NT.


All Laws come from the OT.
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:14 AM
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You should quote the OT laws of Democracy.
If the people wanted to worship idols, why weren't they allowed to?
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There are no laws in the NT.
There are not lies for hermaphrodite grace in the NT.
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Old 01-04-2008, 02:41 AM
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There are not lies for hermaphrodite grace in the NT.
I would say there has never been a lie from a book of the world's greatest truth. Deicide, blood libels, protocols, heresy - these are not from the real bible. Grace and falsehoods cannot be alligned.

So which book records the first laws of democracy?! Is it the Greek writings, the Gospels, Quran, Bagwatgita or the US Constitution ...or maybe its just another Zionist Plot?
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Old 01-04-2008, 02:47 AM
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If the people wanted to worship idols, why weren't they allowed to?
Do the maths : worship of anything already contained in the universe is the wrong path - the creator is transcendent of anything therein created. There is no alternative to Monotheism. Even the greeks, who bowed to many dieties, finally understood this - and later popped up as Christianity - still dragging some of their old baggage with them. Eventually, all will see the light of Abraham.

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Old 01-04-2008, 02:52 AM
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Government leaders should be hanged for negotiating with the Palestinians

It means, Israel will be hanged if she negotiates with the invented evil of SUFFERIN' PRETEND PALS. This is the Vatican doctrine for 2000 years. Genocide comes in many colors:

VE VILL NEVER SUPPORT THE RETURN OF THE JEWS [THE REAL PALESTINIANS] BECAUSE THEY REJECTED JESUS' - Pope oh so very Pious.

has the Pope forgotten who Europe dumped this name on 2000 years ago? Dementia..or VE VERE NOT AVARE time again?

AT LEAST THE NAZIS WERE HONEST ABOUT IT.
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:52 AM
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It means, Israel will be hanged if she negotiates with the invented evil of SUFFERIN' PRETEND PALS. This is the Vatican doctrine for 2000 years. Genocide comes in many colors:

VE VILL NEVER SUPPORT THE RETURN OF THE JEWS [THE REAL PALESTINIANS] BECAUSE THEY REJECTED JESUS' - Pope oh so very Pious.

has the Pope forgotten who Europe dumped this name on 2000 years ago? Dementia..or VE VERE NOT AVARE time again?

AT LEAST THE NAZIS WERE HONEST ABOUT IT.
My friend: do not lie but just read what rabbis are going to do with the first Jew of so called Israel.
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I would say there has never been a lie from a book of the world's greatest truth. Deicide, blood libels, protocols, heresy - these are not from the real bible. Grace and falsehoods cannot be alligned.

So which book records the first laws of democracy?! Is it the Greek writings, the Gospels, Quran, Bagwatgita or the US Constitution ...or maybe its just another Zionist Plot?
Democray leads to War.

People need to think beyond Democracy.
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:23 AM
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Democray leads to War.
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Greece never took on board the second law of democracy: NOT TO FOLLOW A CORRUPT MAJORITY. Thus the church perpertrated the great crimes it did, but is now being allficted with the lack of reciprocity of muslims: Europe has more mosques than churches, bit not so in Islamic states.

Moral of the story: DON'T MESS WITH THE OT. HEAR?

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Old 01-04-2008, 07:23 AM
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My friend: do not lie but just read what rabbis are going to do with the first Jew of so called Israel.

Torah rules. Truth.
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Greece never took on board the second law of democracy: NOT TO FOLLOW A CORRUPT MAJORITY.
Then you should be democratic, in our way.

The problem is, that since Napoleon,

People have been calling the Jacobins democratic.



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Old 01-05-2008, 06:02 AM
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DON'T MESS WITH THE OT. HEAR?
My friend, you knew where I have your OT.

But to keep you informed and proof that you are wrong just read:

Attorney-General Menahem Mazuz refused to say on Thursday whether he will order a criminal investigation of Rabbi Shalom Dov Wolpe, of Chabad's messianic stream, for incitement for telling an audience of rabbis in Tel Aviv that government leaders should be hanged for negotiating with the Palestinians. Mazuz is known to be reluctant to order police investigations when it comes to the use of inflammatory words, as opposed to illegal actions.
Those who demand that Mazuz crack down on firebrands like Wolpe draw a parallel to the events leading up to the assassination of prime minister Yitzhak Rabin, when some rabbis applied din rodef (the right to kill someone who oppresses the Jewish people,) to him over the Oslo Accords.
In fact, Mazuz angered such people during the disengagement period when he said there was no proof that the statements of the rabbis and other Oslo opponents had led to Rabin's assassination.
During the period leading up to 2005's disengagement, Mazuz presented guidelines to the Israel Police, granting it the right to immediately launch a criminal investigation of people who allegedly incite to violence in public, without waiting for the prosecution's approval. According to the guidelines, if someone, before an audience, incites to violence in a clear manner against the prime minister, a cabinet minister or any other elected official, the police can immediately open a criminal probe.
The current law sets a relatively high threshold for determining what incitement constitutes. It calls on the state to prove that the call for violence or expressions of praise and support for violence create "a substantial possibility" of bringing about such an act.
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Old 01-05-2008, 06:32 AM
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for incitement for telling an audience of rabbis in Tel Aviv that government leaders should be hanged for negotiating with the Palestinians. .
I agree with that statement. Your post does not include that this is the Europe invented Pretend Pal premise. Israel is being asked to negotiate peace with those who openly say they do not accept the existence of Israel, and everything in Jewish history is a myth. All humans know inherently, that all which was done and said by Europe and the Arabs about jews and israel = 100% false, and inclined only with the destriction of Israel. Denial is not equal to truth.
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Old 01-05-2008, 06:35 AM
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Then you should be democratic, in our way.

The problem is, that since Napoleon,

People have been calling the Jacobins democratic.



Emperor King Friedrich Wilhelm III


Clothes do not maketh the man. Inside is full of mildew. Same with Saint Isabela. Muslims deem Bin Laden a saint too. And Europe worshipped Adolf, then chanted VE VERE NOT AVARE.
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