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View Poll Results: Who has bigger problems?
A child who must parent their siblings 4 30.77%
A politician fighting for the powerless 9 69.23%
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:38 PM
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Who has bigger problems?

What conclusions do you draw from this comparison?
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:42 PM
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Fuck the individual, it's the collective that matters.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:50 PM
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So you don't think an individual's love for a single person can be more honorable than someone else's love for a thousand?
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Depends on who's being honest. If both are, it becomes a matter of quantity over quality and this detracts from the issue. Eleven IS louder than ten.
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Depends on what you are trying to preserve.

All men are equal or not equal??? What say you?
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All men are not equal, they ought to be treated as such because we hold the concept of fairness to be an ideal, even those who undermine the attempts at fairness for their own ends realize it's importance.
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Fuck the individuals...who are the least honest, then? Seen what politicians are cultivating lately?

How many people in the collective could be fucked based on how strongly some individuals love their neighbor vs the effort most politicians commit to the masses?
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Ah, but this takes us back to honesty, which seems to be a virtue in short supply.
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Then why preserve so many dishonest people? Doesn't sincere and applied love beget more honest individuals? Unless they are all equal?

Doesn't matter much anyway, we need formality. I mean, how could accurately judge such a thing.
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Ya, let's make sure we only put honest people in charge.
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Ya, let's make sure we only put honest people in charge.
Honest people in charge get killed.

But yeah, I agree, good rule of thumb. I guess circumstances dictate when the many outweigh the individual or the individual outweighs the many. Depending on how honest the judgment is.
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what is natural is one o one each time facing another one of the conscience alive in life creation, so it is not really quantity vs quality issue but more of truth reality issue, to feel loving is to feel being positive as a conscious than who is positive dont care about being but cares a lot about positive interactions with any living, as even life look as a hudge impossible one too, but interactions are more real when the positive living element is close to him
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MAN IS NOT EQUAL
IT IS TIME TO WEED OUT THE WEAK AND THE DUMB.
WE MUST CLEANSE THIS EARTH OF THE VILE INFESTATION THAT IS HUMAN KIND .
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I'd say both problems are equally big. The effects of the outcome may be greater for the politician, but it may be greater for the parentless child depending on the outcome. Both problems are pretty big, but the child has less knowledge of what to do in his/her situation.

As far as the rest of this thread's conversation, individuals are more or less less than more worthy of worth equal to the worthy of equality.

All men aren't created equal. If so, we'd all be the same. All men should be treated with respect, until it is undeserved. All men should understand the connection we all have and all men should learn and help others learn about the connection that connects us all.

Respect isn't earned. Disrespect is. Also, everyone should learn that being alive is not a free ride to enjoying life. We must work for life, but try to find the most pleasant way to work for life.
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