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Old 03-14-2009, 11:17 AM
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Dark Energy with Onesimpleprinciple

Space is not expanding or curving.

Atoms expand in space, which is not expanding!

if you do the test particles, and you want to see them pass on the kinetic-energy songs, you have to remember also expanding particles and radiating energy.

The new particles are the hot / dense and have little external surface in relation to the amount of energy which they contain.

That is why the new particles do not affect the interaction of atoms with the cores.

Old-particle interactions seem more. To transfer energy to atoms nucleus. (kinetic energy or heat energy. Whatever you want.)

This explains why the dark energy does not exist. There is only one and the same energy.

Distant galaxy will be the particles are changed travel during not so much high-density energy. They are bigger in relation to the amount of energy which they contain. They radiate their energy faster. They share more energy, that makes them explode more energy away from self, etc. New hot / dense particle time is slow!


The old light photons have time to become less high-density energy, and they are radiating energy to each other. In the energy of photons are pushing each other out away from each other. In this way the light is stretched. Overall, the Red has moved/redshifting, you know!


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Lets remember, quasars born same time when you say, space start expanding acceleration speed.

Well, space is not expanding.

It is energy who expanding in space who dont expand at all!


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Old 03-14-2009, 02:47 PM
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Space is not expanding or curving.

Atoms expand in space, which is not expanding!

if you do the test particles, and you want to see them pass on the kinetic-energy songs, you have to remember also expanding particles and radiating energy.

The new particles are the hot / dense and have little external surface in relation to the amount of energy which they contain.

That is why the new particles do not affect the interaction of atoms with the cores.

Old-particle interactions seem more. To transfer energy to atoms nucleus. (kinetic energy or heat energy. Whatever you want.)

This explains why the dark energy does not exist. There is only one and the same energy.

Distant galaxy will be the particles are changed travel during not so much high-density energy. They are bigger in relation to the amount of energy which they contain. They radiate their energy faster. They share more energy, that makes them explode more energy away from self, etc. New hot / dense particle time is slow!


The old light photons have time to become less high-density energy, and they are radiating energy to each other. In the energy of photons are pushing each other out away from each other. In this way the light is stretched. Overall, the Red has moved/redshifting, you know!


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Lets remember, quasars born same time when you say, space start expanding acceleration speed.

Well, space is not expanding.

It is energy who expanding in space who dont expand at all!


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I agree with your opening sentence and the rest of your explanations are
partly right.

Hydrogen is the primary component of the Universe.
It will expand in open space because of the 'interactions' beteen the electron fields that interact because of the wide orbital sweeps (motions).
This is true of most all gasses.

IMO, photons expand but not in the space as may be generally accepted but in the EM fields that are the transmitters of these photons.
I base this idea on the nature of the 'field patterns' beteen the magnetic poles and the electric charges you learned about in your first physics classes.
Notice the central expansion between these poles and charges. So these field particles have similar charges that cause these photon expansions.

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Old 03-14-2009, 07:20 PM
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Kinetic energy with power/force!

For example, the Sun will change with time by red giant!

The same phenomenon in a micro world. Also the particles are changing with time by "red giant". Receive more hits and more explosive energy away from themselves! Kinetic energy, you know!

Just think, a little explosion microcosmos supernova! Begins to move the kinetisenergy, with power!
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Old 03-15-2009, 06:52 AM
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This is all junk. Space is expanding. Atoms are not expanding. No reason to read beyond the first 2 wrong sentences.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:34 PM
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This is all junk. Space is expanding. Atoms are not expanding. No reason to read beyond the first 2 wrong sentences.

Theory of expanding space is pseudoscience!

You cant see, heard, taste, smell or feel space!

You cant make any test with space!

it is entropy. Just entropy, you know!

You cant proof angel, god or expanding space!



You just believe, space expanding. You are religious!

You can make test with energy!

You can put some stuff expanding normal quiclier, you know!


Lets forget stupid theory of expanding space1

Occam cut stupid idea off!


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Old 03-16-2009, 12:32 AM
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Wrong. You can't prove an expanding space or atoms are not expanding. I can as in I know the science to be able to do so and you obviously do not. You only tell me what you do not know.
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Old 03-16-2009, 12:30 PM
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Wrong. You can't prove an expanding space or atoms are not expanding. I can as in I know the science to be able to do so and you obviously do not. You only tell me what you do not know.

I can explain easy way how energy expanding, but you cant explain how space expanding! You can try! I waiting!


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All the phenomens can be explained by one force and this force is the pressure. (Don´t forget the power of thought! You also can move yourself by the power of thought! Quite right. You get yourself to move with the help of the muscles . You so you send message of your brains to your muscles and you get yourself to move? What is power/force of this thought, which get you to move there where you want?).


We can describe by people what happens in the atomcores all the time. For example one thousand people can go to the space and curl up close to each other. Now we have made an energyconsentration of people that covers a certain spot of the space. We know that the biggest part of the atoms is empty space. Also between people there exists empty space that does not expand or curve.

Now these people can begin to straighten or in other words to open up and this way they push themselves away from each other. One can observe the hardest pressure in the middle of this human energyconsentration and people who locate in the middle must do an enormeous job so that they woun´t
flatten in the centre. These people in the centre sweat the most. This is excactly the same thing that happens without gravitation for example in the centre of the earth and in the centre of the sun.

The density of the human energyconsentration reduces and the people push themselves away from the centre of the human energyconsentration. Now for a little while we can observe a phenomen of gravitation without a drawing force (that actually does not exist) on the surface of the human energyconsentration.

In my opinion the space does not expand or curve. If it would expand, could you describe how does the space expand?

It is easy to describe how the energy all the time turns into a less dense energy in the atomcores, so I think that it is time to forget all about the magical expanding and curving of the space. You can also forget all the spare spacedimentions, the dark substance and the dark energy.

So the space does not expand or curve!

The atomcores expand and open up expanding electrons and expanding photons and they beam their expanding energy as waves away from themselves. This is how it goes!

When you look at the galaxy, you can understand that the energy inside the galaxy is denser than outside the galaxy. If you look at a star, you can understand that energy inside the star is denser than outside the star. This way you will know for sure that the energy inside the atomcore is denser than outside the atomcore. It is not difficult to understand that the energy inside the protons / neutrons is denser than outside of them and the energy inside the qvarks is denser than outside the qvarks and so on...

It it also easy to realize that outside the visible universe the is an area, where is really much more energy than the visible universe has all together and the energy some where out there is much denser than than it is in a visible universe. Still in that area far away from the visible universe there is no centre point where the energy would be denser than outside it.

That three-dimentionally expanding energyconsentration that bems energywaves with the nature of the galaxies, is formed also from separate three-dimentionally expanding energyconsentrations ect. And so the smaller separate energyconsentrations we talk about, the denser and denser the
energy is all the time.

So the atomcore does not have a centre point, where the energy would be denser than outside it. There is no centre point also at the universe, outside which the energy would be less denser.

Because the MOVEMENT takes place towards a less dense area, then the visible universe MOVES as an entity away from that one point that is really far away from the visible universe and where the energy is much denser than it is in a visible universe.









Black holes time is very slowly!

Also black holes expanding and emit high energy particle who also expanding slowly and thats why they dont interactive with expanding atoms nucleus. They dont giving kineticenergy for atoms nucleus!

Thats why expanding black holes eat everything! because black holes dont push expanding stuff far away from expanding black holes!

There is mystery for today science. High energy particle. There is coming some wave of high energy particle and then is take a time and finally coming new wave etc. Just remember, black holes time is very slowly!



Space* » Black holes*
Black holes*
The Interaction / The Black Holes

How do the orbs interact with each other?

They open up energywaves, by which they interact with each other.

The less the orb has exterior surface, the less it interacts with other pieces. Also the density of energy matters as well.

In a energy concentration there can be a lot of energy, although it would have just a little exterior surface in relation to other orbs.

The denser the energy in an orb is, the less it has exterior surface in relation to the quantity of energy.

The less exterior surface, the slower the energy opens up away from the orb and the less it interacts with other orbs.

The denser the energy of a piece is, the more efficient it stops to itself for example the neutrinos coming from the stars and also the less there comes neutrinos away from the piece.

There woun´t come any neutrinos of the stars from the direction of a black hole, because they stop themselves to a black hole.

However, towards the black hole there move neutrinos all the time and they expand and open up energywaves, while transfering their kinetic energy with them to the orbs.

From the pieces that move near the black hole loose more neutrinos from the side that it away from the black hole. This is how a certain exterior pressure is formed around the black hole.

The closer to the black hole the piece is, the less energybundles come from backside of the black holes and the stronger the exterior pressure is.

When one understands that all the energy concentrations expand and open up energywaves that have the nature of expanding energyconcentration, one can undestand that the black hole does not draw other pieces towards itself. It devours all the other pieces, because it expands and pushes pieces that locate nearby away from itself slower than the pieces and the black hole itsel do expand.

However, some of the black holes are in a way in a diet. They push the gas that locates nearby away from themselves faster than they expand.

Someone may wonder, why the black hole finally begins to reject the pieces that approach the black hole faster than the black hole and the piece themselves expand. It is based on a fact, that allthough the black hole opens up slowly its energy, do these dense energywaves have large energic particles, which also transfer their kinetic energy with energywaves opening up from themselves towards the expanding atomcores of other orbs.

The modern physics does not understand these large energic particles. According to my theory, the speed of these large energic particles has accelerated just because of the fact, that they also do expand and open up energywaves by which they can make the large energic particles in front of them to speed up all the time.Their speed accelerates slower than the speed of the photons. Correspondingly their speed slows down slower than the photons speed when they move for example towards the sun. The speed of a ship accelerates slower than the speed of a boat. The speed of the ship also slows down slower than the speed of a boat.

This way it is easy to understand how the expanding star that pushes itself away from the expanding black hole explodes a lot of its energy towards the black hole. Those opening and expanding energybudles that come from the expanding black hole make the expanding atoms of a star explode faster than normally. It achieves an illusion that the black hole absorbs with some kind of gravitation from a star the mass of a star towards itself.

In fact, the energy coming from the black hole makes the expanding star to explode its energy much stronger than normally. With this energy that explodes towards the black hole it pushes itself away from the expanding black hole in a curved orbit.


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Old 03-18-2009, 10:09 PM
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how about:

atom = a division (I read that the Greeks imagined if you kept dividing a material object, would a limit be reached where it didn't divide any further?)

space = room

space expand = room expand = "shift the walls" so creating a "division' marking where the wall(s) USED to be

so "space expand' = "atom" (incorporates this idea)

atom expand = division expand = factorisation

e.g. factorise 12 as 3 x 4 expands the division of 12 x 1.

12 x 1 are factors of 12 too, you may say; but only be convention (as "12" is defined as "12 x 1" so an expansion (into 2-dimensions is inherent if you can tell the difference between "12" and "12 x 1"...?


Identifying basic defining characteristics of information:


"dark matter" = hidden disturbance = conserved energy = conserved alternatives = imaginary factors (a displacement constant)("buffeting")("squaring")

"dark energy" = hidden alternatives = conserved matter = conserved disturbance = factor imaginary (i.e. "a constant displacement")(taking the square root)

"black hole" = number = "anywhere within limits'

mass = uncertainty

light = comparison

speed = comparison

"speed of light" = comparison of comparison

time = anywhere within limits

velocity = directed distance per unit time = fixing a path = velocity = grip on space

inertia = grip on time

electro = generalisation

magnetic = specification

electro-magnetic = generalisation-specification = juxta-positioning (space occuring in blocks)(holographic)(area)(slip)

magno-electric = specification-generalisation = position juxting (laying blocks in space)(graphic hollow)(volume)(grip)
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:29 PM
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classical way "space expanding" is 'explained': partly inflate a balloon. Draw a grid of dots on the balloon. Inflate the ballon further. The distance between (the space between?) the dots, expands.

The dots also expand!

How to avoid the dots expanding? Would need "imaginary divisions" of the balloon surface. Projection into space of Earth-6-month change in position around the Sun, as a baseline for detecting star parallax (relative shifting of positions) of nearby stars, projects onto space "imaginary divisions" (a constant slip differential, or "quantised movement" of these stars). The base-line of a telescope (the width (aperture) of its mirror or "objective lens" also "trips the light" (overlaps the comparision)(creates the "illusion" of "an object floating in space" (a limit (diffraction limit) on "getting around something" through its "walls' (surface texture i.e. details of the divisions within the objects surface?) into relief (into forwards-backwards focus)(into doppler).

An interference between defining Earth-orbit-6-month re: Sun base-line, and telescope aperture, creates the dark matter/ dark energy puzzle?

You get "an imaginary planet/ cum telescope" (an "earth-telescope").

Solution: make a space-telescope (as in: a telescope with a constant swing, that can accurately see space).

By "lapping" the Earth in space via the error margin of telescope mirror or primary lens width; astronomers have "flat earthed" (factorised) astronomy?

They can solve this "by getting around the Earth".
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:56 PM
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My guess:

"one simple principle" = SPIN

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"In fact, the energy coming from the black hole makes the expanding star to explode its energy much stronger than normally. With this energy that explodes towards the black hole it pushes itself away from the expanding black hole in a curved orbit.'

energy = alternatives
black hole = "anywhere within limits"

"energy coming from black hole" = alternatives coming from anywhere within limits = "an accommodation factory" = "a chemical factory" = a star

concept of "star" plus concept of "exploding star" gives push-pull (imaginary space between "energy coming from black hole" and "exploding star" which = "exploding star alternatives"! = exploding star energy! So to ALSO include the concept "exploding star energy" here requires e.g. that the exploding star energy "be (much) stronger (i.e. more in divisions) than 'normal" ?

This energy ALREADY "explodes towards the black hole" (as it is a (re) normalisation of star, black hole distance (or otherwise known as "Feynman path integration"?), so to add this concept (of "explodes towards the black hole") requires it to go to/away the black hole (to orbit it!)

Like it also "pushes" away from it? Since the concept "pushes away from it" is already given, them to TWICE "push away from it" would create "an orbital path variation" (or quasi-metric"?)

By having the black hole "expand"; the star's orbit can be "curved"; this creates "imaginary chemistry" (or the neutrino surge?)

SINCE "black hole" is? an illusion created by "lack of true perspective" (or misplaced angles?); result is "imaginary physics" (or failure to accurately gauge Earth's true trajectory in space?)
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:51 AM
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Neutriinos

Neutriinos explode and radiate energy waves. They will relocate their kineticenergy, expanding planets and Expanding atoms nucleus.

The longer time neutriinos moving mode, the more they affect the interaction of atoms with the cores.

The sun will neutriinos to transfer kinetic energy to the gasplanets more than pioneerprobes.

Gas Planets gets neutriinos "curving" towards him. Therefore, the Sun in a bigger pressure gasplanets than pioneerprobes.

This explains the so-called. pioneeranomalian!



Also that

http://arxivblog.com/?p=596
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Old 03-19-2009, 01:51 PM
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Hi you!

Where did you get that idea, particle dont emit energy?

Of course also all particle emit energy!

This just entropy, you know!

There is no drawing force at all!

If the particles radiate energy, and if the energy of particles becomes entropian throughout the period of less high-density energy, combining macro and micro Kosmos just their own time to understand the overall!

Underground power

When we do experiments on the surface and find out how much the particles transfer the kinetic energy songs, it is worth remembering that they are at the stage of hot / high-density and an outer low-surface relative to the amount of energy that they have! Then they do not affect the interaction of atoms songs kernels very much and therefore do not give up their energy. (kinetic energy or heat energy, and it is the same!)

Later, when particle already moved huge emptynes through, the old density of particles is much less than the future of new particles. Particles of the old time is quicker, and they radiate energy more quickly away from himself. They are bigger and their share of more energy to make them explode their energy towards the nuclei of atoms.

The sun changes with time by red giant. the same phenomenon also occurs in micro-particles of the world!

Does not change the substance energy. Atoms in the kernel, there is no other than the energy that changes the whole period of less high-density energy in accordance with entropian!

Thus we realize that the so-called. dark energy is the one and the same energy as everything else is!

Our measuring instruments, we may not even be able to detect the energy that causes galaxy forces between the rejection, even though this energy is of the one and the same energy as everything else is.

This energy, therefore, to press us towards the expansion of the Earth's surface more strongly than the Earth's emitted energy pushes us away from the planet Earth!

For example, galaxy centers huge black holes are not much time to have affected interactions with each other, but now they come from the energy of which is the result of the stars, the turn affects a lot of other galaxy of stars with. During its journey, these particles are affected by interactions with each other and make each other explode or to become a faster high-density less energy, allowing them to transfer more ns. kinetic energy of non-residential galaxy force galaxy!

Quasars have been observed in born at the same time as the space began to expand an accelerating pace! It is thus seen how the energy started to become less high-density energy an accelerating pace, but still thought-state expansion and began to expand an accelerating rate? and this theory is based on the observation obtained from particles that have energy! The particles themselves are not changed over the entire period of less energy, high-density, when light stretches of red moves in general!

As simple as everything is on!

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Tommy The Wizard Hellstenin book Einari told this on page 125 (A good book, worth reading!)

"The truth is in itself always simple. It has just identified. It is a bright, clear, and simple, so that even a child can understand it. In fact, just the child understands, because he does not make things complicated. The so-called adults are doing, and when Then someone says the truth, it is not expected, because it is not sufficiently complicated. vicious, huh? "


Expanding galaxy groups therefore tönivät each other away from each other already in existence in the state which is not really expanding or curving!
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Quote from 'One Simple Principle:
"Detailed measurements made by the satellite have shown that the fluctuations in the microwave background are about 10% stronger on one side of the sky than those on the other.

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This was attributed to the motion of our local cluster, relative the the CMBR.
So the motions of all the structures in space are now related to the CMBR as the space standard since before this, all bodies were measured relative to our location.

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