Define Truth

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    Ignorance took on the look of non-awareness. In the GOOD BOOK are Indeterminate, Incomplete, Impredicable, Metaphysical, Teleological, Ontological, Epistemological and Theological arguments or propositions over the table of elements which remain constant that is consistent in their constitution. Big long words that the vast majority are in a state of ignorance of, no wits about them, yet they use/abuse those very same properties contained within them (THE PERIODIC TABLE) each instant they get to live, thus remain unaware those actions guide them to do whatever lies in their being to act out, perform on stage each day and then only for a paycheck. Sorry to prick your bubble as to why it is so, AKA, Professor Julius Sumner Millers grinding teeth in your mill to crush your food into digestible paste, but a bubble is the condition where the minimum surface area creates the maximum volume. Pretty deafening are eight billion people by 150 watts delivered through your speakers when all possess and own a will to do for others as you would like them to do for you. Pretty sad state is the democratic state that provides an education that subverts that dominant paradigm. Ignorance of paradigm leads to a constitutional paralysis. Point 1------------------------------

    Paradigm

    As per: Fowler's Modern English Usage in Technical Terms. Oxford University Press 1950 P613

    (Gramm) ; 'showing side by side'. A table of inflexion forms, e.g. of a particular declension of nouns or conjugation of verbs.

    As per: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm#Paradigm_paralysis

    Point 2-------------------------------

    Paradigm paralysis

    Perhaps the greatest barrier to a paradigm shift, in some cases, is the reality of paradigm paralysis: the inability or refusal to see beyond the current models of thinking [9]. This is similar to what psychologists term Confirmation bias.

    Examples include rejection of Galileo's theory of a heliocentric universe, the discovery of electrostatic photography, xerography and the quartz clock.

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    Party Politics produces Paradigm STAGNATION. Listen to question time and pick out one by one all of the ignoratio elenchi's and note them down.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignoratio_elenchi
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  3. Mindsweeper Active Member

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    Truth is a person since apart from personality truth cannot exist. Therefore at its source level all truth must reside in a single person such that a single person could rightly be called truth.
  4. Antone The Dynamic Synthesist

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    Interesting take.

    I simultaneously [sort of agree] and [totally disagree].

    I think truth must be divided into two categories:
    1) Absolute truth: is exactly what is. It is not something that can--in any way be known by a single person (or by a collection of people). This is the sense in which I totally disagree. This type of true is totally outside of the mind of a person, and totally inside the physical aspect of the physical thing itself.
    2) Relative truth: is never physical reality. It is more like the definition of what we think something is. Because definitions are created by minds, the mind is the repository of relative truth. It is the sole judge of relative truth.

    To understand the difference we can look at a single object and compare the two types of truth.

    Suppose we have an actual, physical apple and we ask, "How much does this apple weigh?"
    In an absolute sense, it is impossible for any non-omnisicent being to know the absolute answer to this, because that would require measuring the weight of the apple to an infinite number of decimal places--and no measuring instrument is that precise. Similarly, if we did have such a precise instrument, we could not read the actual measure (or express that actual measure) because we would have to read (or express) a nubmer with an infinite number of decimal places--which would take longer to do than the number of years any mortal will live. Thus, while there is an answer that is absolutely true, it is not one that an individual mind can perceive or express.

    On the other hand, we can answer the same question in relative terms, by defining a few parameters. For instance, we might start by defining a pound to be any weight that is within 1/10th part of a specific standardized weight. Thus, anything within the range of [.95 lb.] to [1.05 lb.] is rounded off and considered to be a pound. In a grocery store, this might be close enough. And so, if the apples weight is actually [.97835092846...] we can answer, "The apple weighs 1 pound." and our answer will be true. If, on the other hand, the one who answers is a scientists who is using a scale that is accurate to the 6th decimal place, then in order to make a true statement, he would have to reply, "The apple weighs .97835 of a pound." In an absolute sense, this answer is no more true than the grocer's answer--since both neglect infinitely many decimal places.

    The point is that either answer is either true or false because we have defined it in such a way that it is true or false. There is nothing in the physical object that makes the answer inherently true. It is all in the mind of the person who is doing the defining. Which means that truth is in the individual...
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  6. Lucifer Overseeing the Milky Way when I am bored.

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    Notice that what he said, 'not a lie', can be rearranged to form the word 'TOENAIL'
    So what he was actually struggling to say here, but bungled up because he lacked the verbal capacity to put his thoughts into words properly, was that he believes he is the social equal of a toenail clipping.
    And Jesus Christ, he accuses Me of ego issues!!
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    "Not a lie" = Truth, not, toe Nail is only an anagram.
    Logic has its conventional terminology in its names.
    For a thing to be both a and not a is disallowed in it.
    Truth is that which occurs instant to instant as history.

    There is such an event in time that is faced constantly.
    Catch 22's double binds damned if you do or do not do.
    That is the truth that exists in any discussion on CROSS.
    CROSS ROAD: Crossed Purposes Spiritual Material etc.

    Logic is the thing as it is known, with out love: NOTHING.
    YES it is true that evil events occur each and every day.
    Yes it is true that from those evil events some of us learn.
    Yes minute is like that one minite shock the next resolution.

    To never ever do the work that way because it leads to death.
    1G binds all to earth not some of you materialists/spiritualists.

    liv+luv=peat:)

    P.S. P implies Q if and only if P=Predication and Q=Quotient.
    By predication is meant that which belongs or fits nut for a hole.
    By quotient is meant that which is the bolt cut to the size of hole.
    Proper names have proved to be a problem logically, historically.
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    The general truth is relative, changeable.
    In Hegel's discourse: The absolute truth is idealism which is about theology, god.
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  9. Antone The Dynamic Synthesist

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    This is not entirely true.

    What is disallowed is for a thing to be both [A and Not A] in the same way and at the same time.
    If the thing is [A] and [not A] in different ways or at different times, then this is perfectly acceptable.
    For example, a [match] can be both hot and cold. [Before we light the match], it is cold. [After] it is hot.
    So at different times, it is both [A and Not A], if A is [hot].

    Similarly, a [lite match] is hot compared to the [temperature of my skin], but is not very hot at all when compared to the [temperature of the sun]. As an adjective, [hot] is a relative term that has no purely independent meaning. The [temperature of my skin] is hot when compared to an [ice cube], although it isn't used that way very often because of convention. But even if you object to such a usage, my [forehead] (which is my skin) can be hot when compared to my [hand] (which is also my skin). So the [temperature of my skin] can even be hot when compared to the [temperature of my skin]. It just can't be the same skin at the same time. But it can be [different parts of my skin at the same time] or the [same part of my skin at differnt times].

    Non-adjectives are a little more subtle, but they too can be both [A] and [Not A]... again, just not [at the same time] or [in the same way].
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    Ford mustang 2012 model to this from place of Ford Car Factory
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    What the law of the excluded middle implies then is muddle.
    For a thing to change in time or place means a is a and no a?
    Time to move from place to place at least is held in common.
    Energy to heat or cool applied to a room as air-conditioned.

    You use way I use place for there is a way or path to a place.
    Reading Michael Ende, Never Ending Story about nothing.
    Surrealistic dream like vision where the reader is the vision.
    Place where hand that writes is eye that views every story.

    That is pretty funny and I am beginning to sound like MD.
    Where I see the problem is not where he sees the problem.
    While I agree there is a map we differ on the territory in it.
    Before map existed was territory after explored came map.

    That via process of exploration with discoveries came maps.
    When one visits that territory next one knows what to expect.
    These days the map has become an array of numbers in photo.
    Without a piece of software to interpret say the jpeg format:lost.

    While I appreciate adjectival law it is still a part of substantive law.
    We have civil process to deal with where part a dies and b becomes a.
    Regardless of what Aristotle thought and what the Republic meant
    We deal with the LAW as a prescription in need of a presrciption.

    Madesta claimed we are limited by actuality so what did he mean?
    We have the system with its potential and what is a viable model?
    How are the unitary values measured measured so others measure?
    These, the real world questions that the judges deal with day in/out.

    Dealing with definition like is the sword sharp or blunt upon testing?
    A point is that which has no part is one rendition of Euclid's first one.
    A point under pressure forms a line and a line under pressure a plane.
    A plane under pressure forms space, anything in it needs time to move.

    [IMG]
    From this as a process in development.
    Other wise called the horseless carriage.
    Looking forward to a wingless plane?:)


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    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/adjective law

    The aggregate of rules of procedure or practice. Also called adjectival law, as opposed to that body of law that the courts are established to administer (called substantive law), it means the rules according to which the Substantive Law is administered, e.g., Rules of Civil Procedure. That part of the law that provides a method for enforcing or maintaining rights, or obtaining redress for their invasion. Pertains to and prescribes the practice, method, procedure, or legal machinery by which substantive law is enforced or made effective.