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Old 02-10-2010, 03:24 AM
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Lightbulb Crime Solution?

Today I read of a man that was beaten so bad by a thug he will be paralyzed for the rest of his life.
The person that did it got 12 years.

My solution to crimes such as this (involving physical damage) is simple, let the accused serve out the 12 year sentence.
Than just before he is to be released, if he has not proven his innocence in the 12 year time period.
He is to be taken to hospital, and then to surgery and have his spinal cord painlessly severed by a doctor, this of course would mean he would be paralyzed for the rest of his life just like his victim.
And as the injury would be considered self inflicted (due to the fact he chose to cripple his victim) he would have reduced or no disability benefits issued.
He or she would be given a permit to beg on the street on condition, the reason for there begging is displayed to inform any one giving money.
This rule of law would also apply the any such smiler crimes, for example, acid thrown in a face, blinding, loss of a seance, an ear or finger bitten of in a fight, etc.
The accused would be given the usual sentence to be served in prison and every opportunity to prove there innocence in that time. If they can not prove a mistake was made then before being released at the end of the sentence they would go to hospital for the final part of the sentence.
In the event that a mistake is made, when the real attacker was found every thing in there sentence would be doubled for example to blind one victim and then sit back as the law blinds another rather than confess. Then the attacker would loose both eyes and his hearing or use of his legs or arms.
The person proven innocent after the fact would be given full restitution and compensation in the form of benefits etc.
wall street criminals would loose every thing after serving there time along with all there fingers.
Any income made begging would be split with there victims after taxes. while leaving the beggar enough for food and lodging with approval of the court.
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Old 02-10-2010, 03:53 AM
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Who's gonna pay for it? What about people who are exonerated after they've served their sentence?
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:21 PM
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History has shown that physical retribution is no way to discourage crime. In particular Eye for an Eye `justice`, although sometimes effective, tends to lead to further violence.
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Old 02-10-2010, 06:51 PM
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I'm bothered by the "if he has not proven his innocence" nonsense. In the United States, only death row inmates have the right, at state expense, to appeal convictions. All other inmates have to pay their own way, and they usually can't afford it.

The purpose of criminal appeals isn't to exculpate convicts anyway. It's to make sure criminal procedure was followed at trial.

If someone is beaten to the point of paralysis, the crime is obviously attempted murder, not aggravated assault. A sentence of 12 years is way too lenient for such an offense.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:39 PM
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Justice systems can in no way be trusted with such a thing.

While it may seem fair in an abstract sense, in reality, retributive justice
just serves as a means to injustice.

Besides, a prisoner is in no position to prove anything.
If it can be proven, it must be done before sentencing!
Not after it!

Financial retribution for finanacial crimes should be at double.
So $1billion dollar of fraud carries a $2billion penalty.
But if it is later found the man was innocent, then the court owes
him $4billion.

But for physical damage, its a gross atrocity because if later
evidence crops up once cannot be given it back with interest.

(Unless we invent genetically modified butterfly wings that
can be grafted onto the person as compensation, perhaps)

If people act like wild beasts, they should be treated no different
from wild beasts. Put it in a cage. There is no sense in mistreating it further.

If you misstreat wild beasts more than is required to contain them,
then you hurt yourself.

Who would want the traumatic experience of having
to chop some persons legs off?

If your car crashes into me, and I lose a leg,
must yours be chopped off to?

Do what is required to contain the problem,
but don't actually BECOME the problem.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:56 PM
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Capital punishment is the only solution to violent crime. There are no repeat offenders following exectuion. 95% of the crime is committed by 5% of the population. Eliminate that 5% and we eliminate 95% of the crime.

Unfortunately the criminal justice system is more concerned with the welfare of those employed by the system than it is for anything else. Second priority is justice for the criminal, not for the victim. How would all the judges, law officers, prison employees, laywers and government officials earn a living if 95% of the crime was eliminated?

Prosecuting crime and all the follow through services with and for criminals is big business at the local, State and Federal levels. Eliminate crime and we would (or could) eliminate a big part of government. The liberals will never go for it.
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Old 02-12-2010, 10:18 PM
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Maybe because the liberals live in reality, where countries that have abolished the death penalty have fewer murders, and countries who have decriminalized drugs have less petty crimes.
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Old 02-13-2010, 04:02 AM
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although being as soft on crime as the UK is a step backwards!
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Old 02-13-2010, 05:12 PM
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Capital punishment is the only solution to violent crime. There are no repeat offenders following exectuion. 95% of the crime is committed by 5% of the population. Eliminate that 5% and we eliminate 95% of the crime.

Unfortunately the criminal justice system is more concerned with the welfare of those employed by the system than it is for anything else. Second priority is justice for the criminal, not for the victim. How would all the judges, law officers, prison employees, laywers and government officials earn a living if 95% of the crime was eliminated?

Prosecuting crime and all the follow through services with and for criminals is big business at the local, State and Federal levels. Eliminate crime and we would (or could) eliminate a big part of government. The liberals will never go for it.
Since the gommint is responsible for the war on drugs,
an insane act of state-sponsored criminality,
it is the gommint that is responsible for at least 50% of the violence
in society

so you are increasing violence by increasing your support for
gommint violence
to pursue a non-violent set of substances

thereby coercing people to use violence to protect their income

the more the violence increases
the more lucrative it all gets
and the more desperate
and violent the situation gets
its a viscious circle that is just getting worse

you cannot support violent acts by people that are the cause
of those violent acts, and hope to get less violence
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Why all the fuss about sugar?

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When I want to have a dessert I make sugar free jello and fill the a tiny cup half full; then I get out my fat free, sugar free chocolate pudding and put three tablespoons of that on top of a half a cup of jello and add a little fat free whipped cream(make sure to get the one that has 5 calories per tablespoon). One dessert completed in this manner has 40 calories and you feel like you had a hit from a lump of sugar when you've had none at all.



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I also use Splenda in my coffee.
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Old 05-27-2010, 10:26 PM
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Capital punishment is the only solution to violent crime. There are no repeat offenders following exectuion. 95% of the crime is committed by 5% of the population. Eliminate that 5% and we eliminate 95% of the crime.

Unfortunately the criminal justice system is more concerned with the welfare of those employed by the system than it is for anything else. Second priority is justice for the criminal, not for the victim. How would all the judges, law officers, prison employees, laywers and government officials earn a living if 95% of the crime was eliminated?

Prosecuting crime and all the follow through services with and for criminals is big business at the local, State and Federal levels. Eliminate crime and we would (or could) eliminate a big part of government. The liberals will never go for it. bobbo
No one needs to tell me how to choose a proper execution for violent sinister crimes. I know exactly what I prefer and that would stop some of the bullies out there once they get the right kind of punishment that will be enforced. They can put on like a suit as a mind set even before they attempt it.

Thank you.
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Old 05-28-2010, 05:07 PM
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Ive heard that castration is still used in some states(US) for sexual offenders.
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Old 05-28-2010, 07:23 PM
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And I've found out that half of those in jail locally
are innocent of the charges.

So keep singing
'crucify him'
at people you have never even met.

Keep putting your faith in the injustice system.
Go on.

Kick the chair out from under yourself.
Just don't say nobody warned you.
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